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Brad Owen makes one of poker’s most popular vlogs (video blogs) with a YouTube channel that documents his time playing $2-$5 no-limit hold’em cash games in Las Vegas. He has more than 95,000 subscribers to his channel, making his vlog one of the most viewed in the burgeoning entertainment space.

Owen moved to Las Vegas in 2012 playing on a semi-professional basis. In 2015, he transitioned back to full-time hours, eventually starting his vlog at the end of 2016. Much like his good friend and fellow vlogger Andrew Neeme, Owen gives his followers a first-person view of his poker experience, sharing the ups and downs of the grind.

With poker vlogs increasing in popularity, Owen and Neeme have introduced their ‘Meet Up Games,’ where the duo leaves Las Vegas and hits the road to host cash games in other locations. Since the two vloggers have sometimes met resistance from the casinos when it comes to filming at the poker tables, these games give them a chance to keep the camera rolling and play poker with their fans.

The prevailing opinion about current mid-stakes cash games in Las Vegas is that the action is dying and that the ceiling on how much someone can earn in those games is much lower than it used to be. Card Player caught up with Owen to find out if that notion is true, and further discuss the state of live no-limit hold’em cash games.

Steve Schult: Give me a general overview of what a typical $2-$5 game looks like for you. When you sit down, is it mostly pros? Mostly recreational players? What is the general ratio?

Brad Owen: It’s definitely a good mix. Typically, I play at Red Rock Casino if I’m going to play $2-$5. That’s a game that was great when I first moved out here. It’s gotten much tougher. When I first moved in 2012, I was usually sitting in games with one or two other pros. Now, it’s probably one of the toughest $2-$5 games in Las Vegas. There are generally three to five other professionals in the game, I’d say. Everyone just has a pretty good idea of what they’re doing.

I think on the Strip, the games are a little bit easier. But since I’ve played at Red Rock and got used to it when I first moved here, I just really enjoy the atmosphere. The room is great, the staff is great and I’m really good friends with everybody because it’s kind of a local’s casino. As you get to the Strip, games tend to be softer, but they’re not generally as friendly. Maybe there’s three or four other pros in the game at Aria or the Venetian.

If I go to Bellagio, I pretty much only play $5-$10 because that’s kind of the natural progression. It’s the smallest $5-$10 game in Vegas. It’s a $1,500 cap. The $2-$5 is a $500 cap there and I just don’t enjoy playing 100-big blind poker for $2-$5.

SS: The Strip obviously has more options in terms of tables and rooms than some of the more local casinos. If you were to go to the Strip, how many of those rooms will have a $2-$5 or a $5-$10 game running on a consistent basis?

BO: On the Strip, there are five places that have $2-$5 on a daily, or almost daily basis. There’s Caesars Palace, Bellagio, Aria, Wynn, and Venetian. If you’re looking for a $5-$10 game, there’s only three properties that have it regularly – Bellagio, Aria and Wynn. The $5-$10 is smallest at Bellagio with a $1,500 cap and then there is a $3,000 cap at Aria. It’s uncapped at the Wynn. Generally, if you’re working your way up the ranks in Las Vegas as a $5-$10 pro, you typically start out at Bellagio, then go to Aria, and then go to the Wynn.

SS: It seems like there aren’t many consistencies with regards to cap buy-in amounts at these stakes among these properties. How do the different buy-in structures affect the quality of the game? Are there more pros in the Wynn $2-$5 game than at Bellagio?

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BO: Yeah, I think there’s definitely more rec players in the Bellagio $2-$5, but since it is a smaller game, it kinds of plays similarly to the $1-$3 at the Wynn and the Orleans. Both of those properties have a $500 cap on their $1-$3 game. You’re able to open to $15 in those $1-$3 games just like you would in the Bellagio $2-$5 game. I think that some of those other $1-$3 games are more profitable than a Bellagio $2-$5 game just because it is so small.

The Wynn is interesting because it is pretty tough regardless. It’s regarded nearly unanimously as the nicest poker room in Las Vegas. You have a lot of wealthier businessmen come in there that aren’t necessarily the best poker players. They’re willing to splash around a lot. But there are a ton of other $2-$5 players there that could be playing $5-$10 profitably. There’s just kind of a big mix and wide spectrum of players with regard to skill level at the Wynn. And for $5-$10, I think Bellagio is the softest. Aria is a little bit tougher and the Wynn is by far the toughest.

SS: What are attainable hourly win rates for these games?

BO: In general, 6-10 big blinds per hour is what good players typically make. Anything beyond that and you’re either a phenomenal player, you’re running well, or both.

SS: Are there any crazy outlier win rates that you’ve heard about or gone through yourself?

BO: My friend last year made $140,0000 over 2,000 hours playing almost exclusively $2-$5 in Las Vegas. I’ve never heard of anyone making more at that stake, that I believe anyway, over the course of 12 months. My friend is one of the very best $2-$5 players in town, but he’d probably be the first to tell you that he ran extremely well too. If he were in a different city like Phoenix, Austin, Tampa, or Baltimore, I think he could’ve potentially made more than $200,000.

SS: It seems like you think there are better cities than Las Vegas to grind poker full-time in. If you decide to play a session in Las Vegas, how often do you find yourself switching tables to get out of a bad game? Or even switching entire casinos as a whole?

BO: People see the YouTube videos of Andrew [Neeme] and I doing meet-up games a lot of the time. And we’ll generate seven $2-$5 tables or something like that, or more. We were just in Maryland Live! and we had 22. In the videos, I’ll be changing tables all the time, but when I’m in Las Vegas, I’m typically not table changing that often.

If I go to a place like Aria that might have four or five $2-$5 games, then I’ll definitely table change once or twice on average to try and find the most profitable game. But typically, like in $5-$10, there aren’t that many options for tables. If I go to Bellagio, there might only be two or three games, and one of them might be a must-move, or two of them might be a must-move. You can’t really table change as frequently in $5-$10. Sometimes you can’t table change at all.

And as far as going to different properties, I think that’s something really important if you’re going to be playing poker for a living. If the games aren’t that good at one property, you definitely need to be moving around. That’s something most people generally don’t do. There are a few problems with that. The biggest one is that it does factor into your hourly a little bit. If you show up at Bellagio and the games aren’t that good, and you want to go to Caesars, you have to walk over there and wait on the list. That’s a half hour or 45 minutes or more possibly that you’re not actually playing, but it’s still a work day for you.

SS:Como jogar poker jogatina. Do you find pros playing smaller than $2-$5 no-limit hold’em? Would you ever recommend playing smaller full-time?

BO: There are definitely pros that play $1-$2 and $1-$3 for a living. I don’t know how much they’re really able to make, and I would not suggest people play it for a living. It’s just extremely stressful and impossible to save any money. I think anything that you do for a living, you need to factor in how that’s going to affect your future and your ability to have a family and retire. You just can’t really do those things if you’re grinding those games for a living for the most part.

SS: Do games above $2-$5 and $5-$10 run very often?

BO: $10-$20 no-limit hold’em really only runs consistently at Bellagio. And then it runs a little bit at Aria and maybe once in a while at the Wynn. Those player pools are tiny. When you go upstairs at Bellagio to the high-stakes area, you’ll notice that the $10-$20 game is filled with pros. It’s basically eight pros in a game and maybe one recreational player.

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SS: Tell me a little bit about the other places you have played. Recently, with the meet-up games that you have been running with Andrew Neeme, you’ve gotten to play a lot in Texas and were just up in Maryland. How do those games compare with your normal game at Red Rock Casino?

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BO: There are fewer pros in those games. The games are softer and there’s a lot more limping. People don’t seem to have as firm of a grasp on proper poker fundamentals, and in general they’re more profitable to play.

SS: If someone were aspiring to become a poker pro, would you even tell them to move to Las Vegas? Where do you think is the most profitable place to start a mid-stakes poker career right now?

BO: There’s a few things you have to consider when you decide you want to play poker for a living. I think Las Vegas is great for a lot of different reasons. There’s a lot of different games you can choose from across the different stakes, so that’s a huge plus. It’s the entertainment capital of the world, so there’s a lot of things to do when you’re not playing poker, but there are a couple other things to factor in.

Vegas can be kind of a depressing city to live in for sure. If you don’t have any friends here, it can be a very lonely city. And poker is one of the loneliest professions that there is. Every day you show up and how you do and regardless if you win or lose, nobody really cares outside of you. If you lose, no one cares, or can relate to you at all. You’re just completely on your own.

The games are not softer here than they are in other locations, so I don’t think that you can make as much money, as much gross revenue from playing poker here. But when you compare it to California, I mean, the cost of living is so much more there that it might make it difficult to play for a living in a place like Los Angeles for instance.

But yeah, I would recommend playing for a living in place like Florida where there’s a lot of options and the games are soft. Texas is the same way. Also the Maryland area, the games are pretty soft and you have a few different options. You want to go places where your opponents are not highly skilled and where there’s a lot of money in the area, and the cost of living is cheap. That’s the ideal combination of determining factors.

Check out some of Owen’s most popular vlogs below.

Photo Credit: Brad Owen/@bradowen1

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It’s a wonderful world out there on YouTube for poker fans right now, with so much golden content that you might never even get round to playing the damn game itself! However, since we ARE all poker players as well, let’s try to narrow down the best of the YouTube vloggers with regard to how much they can help our own game…

Daniel Negreanu

Improving our poker skills

Of course, improving our play is one of the main reasons we watch a lot of the guys on YouTube, and picking just one is a tough task, but it’s hard to see past the all-time leading money-winner Dnegs when it comes to hand reading, analysis and tournament tips.

A natural in front of the camera, Negreanu has decided to take on the new breed of vloggers with a resurrection of his own channel – and it contains some mightily impressive fare already.

As with many viewers, ‘incredible poker hand’ videos are fun (quads vs Royal Flush! Who hasn’t watched this?) but what we really need are some specific pointers on how to play better, so one of his vlogs from last week caught my eye – value bet or check-call – which is a perennial problem for myself and no doubt countless others…

Pre-flop thoughts, bet-sizing on the flop, stack sizes – Negreanu rattles quickly through the lot, so it pays to pause the video and think for yourself at times. And the nuggets of wisdom are always worth noting down!

“In tournament poker, when we’re out of position, our goal is to avoid as many bad spots as we can!” says Negreanu on the turn, and if we could write a list of ‘important thoughts’ for our play, Negreanu’s nuggets would fill a book!

I won’t spoil the video for you all, but I’ll leave you with another gem:

'When you’re value-betting the river, you want to make sure that you actually beat some hands, so there’s VALUE in the bet!”

Alec Torelli

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Lifestyle

Although Alec Torelli is also a high-class player with plenty of hand analysis on his YouTube channel, I tend to visit him for the non-playing aspects of poker – the lifestyle choices approach to the game which are almost as important as knowing heads-up theory or hand ranges!

His ‘Poker Life’ series sees the high-stakes expert answering viewers questions, and a couple of weeks ago he focused on the financial aspects of the game - how to avoid money-mistakes, how to build your bank balance, etc.

The ‘three things Torelli would tell his 18-year old self’ starting out in the game are invaluable - “spend less, save more, invest!” says Torelli – too simple, huh?

Well, everything is simple when an expert lays it out on the table for you, but that’s part of the reason why we’re watching these vlogs! We’re not really doing things right, and we want not only entertainment, but advice.

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Toreli’s vlog is, like most of the best guys out there right now, well-produced and easy-to-watch. He’s a likeable and knowledgeable poker pro, and you can tell he believes what he’s saying and wants to help you too!

Truth be told, he could sometimes shorten his vlogs a little, but that’s a petty complaint as overall this guy is dynamite for getting you to think clearly about the wider approach to your poker life!

Andrew Neeme

Enthusiasm

It might just be me, but somehow it’s the droller vloggers are the ones who get me wanting to visit the casino and actually play poker!

Jeff Boski with his slow, southern drawl almost made the cut for this top 3, but I eventually plumped for Andrew Neeme as his own adventures mirror my own a bit more closely – and this is a good way to choose your vloggers, find someone you can copy and learn from at the same time.

So why does Neeme make me want to play poker? Well, he plays at stakes I understand – no $million pots for Neeme, he’s usually found at $5-10 No Limit cash games, grinding out a good living – a place many of us would like to be at and can achieve with hard work.

Anyway, one of his vlogs this week – Revenge Poker at Ocean’s Eleven Casino – sees our man a bit chipper than usual, although be warned – the first hand of the night he messes up in ‘editing’, so read the comments!

Again, it’s important that we can relate to certain players and their lives in order to fully appreciate what they are doing and how we can improve our own enjoyment and poker skills.

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The three I’ve chosen are only a handful from among the dozens out there in YouTube poker-vlogger land, so feel free to pick your own!